04/21/2006 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE
April 21, 2006
3:32 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Pete Kott
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux
Representative Bob Lynn
Representative Harry Crawford
Representative David Guttenberg
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Tom Anderson, Chair
Representative Norman Rokeberg
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 177(HES)
"An Act eliminating the prohibition on the use by certain
licensed professionals of titles or descriptions of services
that incorporate the terms 'psychoanalysis,' 'psychoanalyst,'
'psychotherapy,' 'psychotherapeutic,' or 'psychotherapist.'"
- MOVED CSSB 177(HES) OUT OF COMMITTEE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: SB 177
SHORT TITLE: PRACTICE OF PSYCHOLOGY
SPONSOR(s): HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES BY REQUEST
04/15/05 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
04/15/05 (S) HES, L&C
04/20/05 (S) HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
04/20/05 (S) Scheduled But Not Heard
01/25/06 (S) HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
01/25/06 (S) Heard & Held
01/25/06 (S) MINUTE(HES)
02/01/06 (S) HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
02/01/06 (S) -- Rescheduled to 02/03/06 --
02/03/06 (S) HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
02/03/06 (S) -- Rescheduled from 02/01/06 --
02/06/06 (S) HES RPT CS 2DP 1NR NEW TITLE
02/06/06 (S) DP: DYSON, ELTON
02/06/06 (S) NR: GREEN
02/14/06 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211
02/14/06 (S) Moved CSSB 177(HES) Out of Committee
02/14/06 (S) MINUTE(L&C)
02/15/06 (S) L&C RPT CS(HES) 3DP 2NR
02/15/06 (S) DP: BUNDE, SEEKINS, STEVENS B
02/15/06 (S) NR: DAVIS, ELLIS
02/22/06 (S) TRANSMITTED TO (H)
02/22/06 (S) VERSION: CSSB 177(HES)
02/24/06 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/24/06 (H) HES, L&C
03/28/06 (H) HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106
03/28/06 (H) <Bill Hearing Postponed to 04/04/06>
04/04/06 (H) HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106
04/04/06 (H) <Bill Hearing Postponed to 04/06/06>
04/06/06 (H) HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106
04/06/06 (H) -- Rescheduled from 04/04/06 --
04/11/06 (H) HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106
04/11/06 (H) Moved Out of Committee
04/11/06 (H) MINUTE(HES)
04/12/06 (H) HES RPT 2DP 2NR
04/12/06 (H) DP: ANDERSON, WILSON;
04/12/06 (H) NR: CISSNA, GARDNER
04/19/06 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM CAPITOL 17
04/19/06 (H) Heard & Held
04/19/06 (H) MINUTE(L&C)
04/21/06 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM CAPITOL 17
WITNESS REGISTER
JASON HOOLEY, Staff
to Senator Fred Dyson
Senate Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee
Alaska State Legislature
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented SB 177 on behalf of the Senate
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee,
sponsor.
ANNE L. HENRY, Chair
Alaska Board of Licensed Professional Counselors
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions during hearing on SB
298.
ACTION NARRATIVE
REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT, Acting Chair, called the House Labor
and Commerce Standing Committee meeting to order at 3:32:08 PM.
Representatives LeDoux, Kott, Guttenberg, and Lynn were present
at the call to order. Representative Crawford arrived as the
meeting was in progress.
SB 177-PRACTICE OF PSYCHOLOGY
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT announced that the only order of business
would be CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 177(HES), "An Act eliminating
the prohibition on the use by certain licensed professionals of
titles or descriptions of services that incorporate the terms
'psychoanalysis,' 'psychoanalyst,' 'psychotherapy,'
'psychotherapeutic,' or 'psychotherapist.'"
3:32:54 PM
JASON HOOLEY, Staff to Senator Fred Dyson, Senate Health,
Education and Social Services Standing Committee, Alaska State
Legislature, Sponsor, noted a letter from the sponsor in
members' packets, which discusses the standards for licensure of
each professional group affected by SB 177. He said that each
profession requires a masters' degree, at least one year of
supervised experience, in addition to a board exam. Mr. Hooley
related the sponsor's concern that the individuals practicing
the services described in the bill be qualified and
satisfactorily supervised.
3:33:48 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX inquired as to the training a licensed
clinical social worker (LCSW), licensed marital and family
therapist (LMFT), or a licensed professional counselor receives
in psychoanalysis.
3:34:20 PM
ANNE L. HENRY, Chair, Alaska Board of Licensed Professional
Counselors, explained that psychiatrists have typically
performed psychoanalysis, as this was the original technique
used in psychotherapy. She said that several techniques evolved
out of this, including Gestalt therapy. Marianne Robinson, she
said, is a practitioner in Anchorage who has a [Masters in
social work], and has received years of psychoanalytic training.
She explained that [Ms. Robinson] is the "main person" who would
like this changed. She said that she is unsure of the
requirement for training and supervised practice, but said that
generally, there is "quite a bit" of work involved, along with
national certification.
3:36:18 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX remarked that the bill appears to be for
one person, and inquired about practitioners who may not be
qualified, but would be able to use the terms if the bill
passes.
MS. HENRY replied that there is an "ethical code" for each of
the four disciplines. This code, she said, acts as part of the
disciplinary policy. She stated that one of the main sections
of the disciplinary code states that a person must not practice
any modality in which he or she has not been adequately trained.
If a person does this, she said, his or her license may be
revoked and a fine may be assessed. She opined that this is "as
stiff as it can get," adding that a person who takes the time to
get licensed does not want to lose the license. In regard to
whether SB 289 is for the benefit of one person, she said that
this is incorrect. She explained that when psychologists were
originally writing statutes for licensure, the intent was to
restrict the language that applies to psychotherapy and
psychoanalysis; however, other practitioners began to be
licensed. The [psychologists] have realized, she said, that the
terms were unjustly restricted. Ms. Henry stated that the bill
is intended to rectify a conflict between the current statutes
and Medicaid regulations. She explained that Medicaid
recognizes "psychotherapy" as a service and allows for all of
the four mental health professions to bill for this service.
She said that the bill was brought forward by several directors
of state funded mental health facilities who were concerned with
this discrepancy.
3:38:58 PM
MS. HENRY went on to say that the [Board of Psychologists and
Psychological Associate Examiners] decided to remove the
restriction on "psychoanalysis" and "psychoanalytical," as they
do not practice these modalities.
ACTING CHAIR KOTT closed public testimony.
3:40:11 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX said that she is still uncomfortable with
"psychoanalysis" and "psychoanalyst," noting that the
practitioner may be punished if training is not "adequate." She
expressed concern with the term "adequate."
3:41:23 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD moved to report CSSB 177(HES) out of
committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying
fiscal notes. There being no objection, CSSB 177(HES) was
reported from the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.
3:42:24 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at
3:43:11 PM.
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